Comments for Davai Blog http://blog.davaidesign.com The crazy world of 1's and 0's Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:50:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 Comment on How to Write Good Copy for Your Website by greg http://blog.davaidesign.com/e-business/how-to-write-good-copy-for-your-website/comment-page-3/#comment-3015 greg Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:51:58 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=179#comment-3015 Thanks. Good article. Thanks. Good article.

]]> Comment on New Age Marketing by Online Advertising Live » Blog Archive » Davai Blog » New Age Marketing http://blog.davaidesign.com/world/new-age-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-1625 Online Advertising Live » Blog Archive » Davai Blog » New Age Marketing Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:34:37 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=39#comment-1625 [...] Alex wrote an interesting post today onDavai Blog » New Age MarketingHere’s a quick excerptIn the new age of marketing, people are targeted by interests, regardless of what demographic they belong to. The problem is that interest, unlike age or location, is difficult to probe if you live by the old rules. … [...] [...] Alex wrote an interesting post today onDavai Blog » New Age MarketingHere’s a quick excerptIn the new age of marketing, people are targeted by interests, regardless of what demographic they belong to. The problem is that interest, unlike age or location, is difficult to probe if you live by the old rules. … [...]

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by Alex http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-23 Alex Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:35:58 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-23 @Darren: I agree if your application is a tool, you need people to simply find it, but a lot of developers use the technology to present requested content without reloading pages. It might not always be smart, but neither was releasing Vista... @Johnny: Microsoft introduced some nice features in Orcas to deal with SEO and Silverlight. It's not perfect, but it's something. I'm not yet familiar with how JavaFX development involves SEO, so I can't comment on that (yet). As for AJAX, you are totally right. A good investment in the technology will go a long way. @Darren: I agree if your application is a tool, you need people to simply find it, but a lot of developers use the technology to present requested content without reloading pages. It might not always be smart, but neither was releasing Vista…

@Johnny: Microsoft introduced some nice features in Orcas to deal with SEO and Silverlight. It’s not perfect, but it’s something. I’m not yet familiar with how JavaFX development involves SEO, so I can’t comment on that (yet). As for AJAX, you are totally right. A good investment in the technology will go a long way.

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by JohnnyOpcode http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-22 JohnnyOpcode Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:49:29 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-22 If SEO is a problem for Flex, how does SilverLight or JavaFX not have the same issue. Tell it like it is. SilverLight is behind the curve, and Microsoft is bribing development houses (and bloggers) to pump out stuff that looks cool. JavaFX, pie in the sky catch-up. The only two dogs out front are Flex and AJAX. And if AJAX had some well thought out framework like Flex them maybe with these new javascript engines coming online we'll see some sweet RIA's. If SEO is a problem for Flex, how does SilverLight or JavaFX not have the same issue. Tell it like it is. SilverLight is behind the curve, and Microsoft is bribing development houses (and bloggers) to pump out stuff that looks cool. JavaFX, pie in the sky catch-up. The only two dogs out front are Flex and AJAX. And if AJAX had some well thought out framework like Flex them maybe with these new javascript engines coming online we’ll see some sweet RIA’s.

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by Darren http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Darren Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:14:08 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-21 I agree with all the other posters above that it doesn't make sense to worry about SEO for applications. Do you need to find all the "pages" (not really a relevant paradigm for RIA's but you used it) of Buzzword or Photoshop Express? No - you just need to find where on the web the app is located. It would be rare to use any of these technologies for a brochure-style site, which is where SEO is relevant. Of course, if you were to use Flex, for example, for a non-app site, you can always take the time to make it searchable and use deep-linking to link to individual pages if this is important to your use-case: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/swf_searchability.html I agree with all the other posters above that it doesn’t make sense to worry about SEO for applications. Do you need to find all the “pages” (not really a relevant paradigm for RIA’s but you used it) of Buzzword or Photoshop Express? No - you just need to find where on the web the app is located. It would be rare to use any of these technologies for a brochure-style site, which is where SEO is relevant. Of course, if you were to use Flex, for example, for a non-app site, you can always take the time to make it searchable and use deep-linking to link to individual pages if this is important to your use-case:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/swf_searchability.html

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by Alex http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Alex Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:10:19 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-20 @John: Google always had difficulty indexing Flash websites, and even with the recent improvements, there remains numerous issues. For example, Google can't index separate pages on a Flex site, which makes organizing content and optimizing pages for keywords pointless. Instead it is seen as one soup with all sorts of ingredients. @Andy: Curl isn't widespread (indeed most are in Japan, with others sprinkled all over the place), but those that use it are fanatics. I'm a bit surprised why it hasn't picked up, which is why I am optimistic that it has a shot. @YuiYose: Indeed GWT is in the same boat as Flash, but there's an effort being made to solve this issue, albeit not as much as some would like. Overall, this issue is more important for the little guy who can't afford a high search engine ranking and instead relies on content. If you have the dough to back you up, you indeed don't have to worry about it. @John: Google always had difficulty indexing Flash websites, and even with the recent improvements, there remains numerous issues. For example, Google can’t index separate pages on a Flex site, which makes organizing content and optimizing pages for keywords pointless. Instead it is seen as one soup with all sorts of ingredients.

@Andy: Curl isn’t widespread (indeed most are in Japan, with others sprinkled all over the place), but those that use it are fanatics. I’m a bit surprised why it hasn’t picked up, which is why I am optimistic that it has a shot.

@YuiYose: Indeed GWT is in the same boat as Flash, but there’s an effort being made to solve this issue, albeit not as much as some would like.

Overall, this issue is more important for the little guy who can’t afford a high search engine ranking and instead relies on content. If you have the dough to back you up, you indeed don’t have to worry about it.

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by YuiYose http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-19 YuiYose Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:36:27 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-19 @Alex. If you take a look at Google GWT, you'd see there's obfuscation on those javascript programs. If Google doesn't mind these obfuscated javascript programs being un-indexable, no one else should worry much about it. @Alex. If you take a look at Google GWT, you’d see there’s obfuscation on those javascript programs. If Google doesn’t mind these obfuscated javascript programs being un-indexable, no one else should worry much about it.

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by Andy Powell http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Andy Powell Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:42:22 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-18 @Richard I have to disagree with the "800lb Gorilla" claim. I've never had a client in the enterprise even ask about Curl, and our client is no slouch. I constantly hear Curl is "huge in Japan", but don't see it or hear about it outside of Japan. @Richard I have to disagree with the “800lb Gorilla” claim. I’ve never had a client in the enterprise even ask about Curl, and our client is no slouch. I constantly hear Curl is “huge in Japan”, but don’t see it or hear about it outside of Japan.

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by John Dowdell http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-17 John Dowdell Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:30:46 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-17 <em>"Flex is bad for SEO, plain and simple."</em> Which site are you trying to locate, under which search term? (For the others, which can you actually deploy atop today?) jd/adobe “Flex is bad for SEO, plain and simple.”

Which site are you trying to locate, under which search term?

(For the others, which can you actually deploy atop today?)

jd/adobe

]]> Comment on War of the RIA Worlds by Alex http://blog.davaidesign.com/web-development/war-of-the-ria-worlds/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Alex Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:15:33 +0000 http://blog.davaidesign.com/?p=79#comment-16 @YuiYose: These "applications" are moving to the Internet. It certainly became obvious with the release of Google Chrome, so if your application is packaged as a website, you as a business want it to be indexed. @YuiYose: These “applications” are moving to the Internet. It certainly became obvious with the release of Google Chrome, so if your application is packaged as a website, you as a business want it to be indexed.

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